Steinenbronn
I am continuing to wade thru my family material and enter anything not already in the database.
Awhile back I came across a German genealogical web site which lists more than 200 Schienle individuals from the Steinenbronn area. Steinenbronn has been the hometown for Schienles for probably more than 300 years. Anyway, the link as follows for those interested.
http://www.ortsfamilienbuecher.de/namelist.php?nachname=SCHIENLE&ofb=steinenbronn&modus=&lang=de
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Carole Koontz 3:29 am on November 7, 2010 Permalink |
Walt, This link just led me to the information I have been hoping to find for many years! My cousin, the late Bill Speece had contacted you about our Shanley line, hoping that we connected somehow. I had suspected the Steinenbronn/Waldenbuch area to be the home of our immigrant ancestor John Shanely (spelling changed later to Shanley but was originally Schienle). Now I have proof and have the marriage dates and exact birth dates for him (Johannes Schienle) and his wife, Katharina Haisch. I am thrilled, and so thankful for your blog and the link to the ortsfamilienbuecher. I will contact his daughter and the other Shanleys in our line to let them know that I have finally located the birthplace of our ancestors.–Carole Koontz
Walt Schoenly 12:32 pm on November 7, 2010 Permalink |
Thanks so much, Carole, for letting me know. So, am I correct in understanding that your John Shanely was a descendant of our Friederich’s brother Michael? I think that would be our connection. That’s REALLY neat!
Carole Koontz 12:22 am on November 12, 2010 Permalink |
Walt,
After charting out the information from the Steinenbronn family books, it appears that the connection between our family and yours seems to come from the maternal line (Katharina Haisch)! Katharina Haish’s parents were Michael Haisch (1754-1776) and Margareta Haisch (1758-1814). Michael Haisch’s mother was Anna Maria Schienle (1722-1776). Anna Maria Schienle’s father was Michael Schienle (1679-1722) , who had a brother Friedrich ( 1702-1748). Is that your Friedrich?
There were two listings for a Johannes Schienle born in 1785. One was the son of a Michael Schienle (1726-1791), but he was not ours. Our Johannes Schienle (b.Jan. 301, 1785) was the son of Jakob Schienle (1742-1831). Jakob Schienle was the son of Johann George Schienle (1691-1775). Johann Jacob was the son of Johannes Schienle (d. 1690); and the father of Johannes Schienle was Martin Schienle (d. 1699). But it seems that the Schienle line goes back to Martin Schienle (d. 1699), so I guess we connect one way or the other!
It appears that the Schienle and Haisch families intermarried quite a bit.
The family books are a wonderful resource.
Carole Koontz
Walt Schoenly 1:14 am on November 12, 2010 Permalink |
Hi Carole: I’m going to have to go back the that Steinenbronn site and fill in the gaps. I was primarily interested in my own particular line and only documented the siblings sometimes. I should have been more diligent. The Friederich (1702-1748) you mentioned is my line …. he was the father of the immigrant to America, Friederich (jr) ….. and also the brother of Anna Mraia Schienle. I was unaware that Anna Maria married back into the Haisch line … that is interesting. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I do hope to eventually research some more of the Schiele lines. In 1920 -or- 1921 (see: Ellis Island recs) two Schienles (Albert & Barbara) came to America from Steinenbronn. I am sure there is a connection but was unable to connect the dots … maybe someday. As I write I am looking at my notes and see that Friederich (jr) had a brother Michael (1727-1792). Micahel then had a son Johann Ludwig Schienle who, again, married a Haisch (Anna Catharina) …. so it looks like you’re right … the Schienles & Haischs go way back. Thanks again for the info …. – Walt
Carole Koontz 1:13 am on November 12, 2010 Permalink |
Walt,
I mistyped the birth date for my Johannes Schienle. It should be Jan. 30, 1785. So sorry!
Carole Koontz
Walt Schoenly 1:19 am on November 12, 2010 Permalink |
I thought something looked odd about that date … thanks 🙂